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Regulatory Panel
27 Oct 2021 - 14:00 to 14:31
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Standard Items
To receive apologies for absence and notification of substitutions
Apologies for absence were submitted on behalf of Councillor Miss Jeanette Whalen and Councillor Dr Helen Davison. 
Members are invited to declare any disclosable pecuniary interests, other registrable interests and any interests, relating to any items on the agenda at this stage.

There were no declarations of interest submitted.

To agree that the items of business within Part A of the agenda should be dealt with in public and that the items of business within Part B of the agenda should be dealt with in private.

It was agreed that the items of business in Part A be dealt with in public and the items of business in Part B be dealt with when the public and press were excluded. 

To approve the minutes of the meeting held on 22 September 2021. 
(Copy Minutes herewith)

RESOLVED - The minutes of the meeting held on 22 September 2021 were agreed.
Public Items
The Licensing Manager to submit a report regarding a request to limit the number of Hackney Carriage Vehicle Licenses. 
(Copy Report GD.74/21)

The Regulatory Services Manager presented a request from a member of the Taxi Trade for Carlisle City Council to limit the number of Hackney Carriage Vehicle licences.(GD.74/21)

The Regulatory Services Manager reported that a request had made from the local Taxi Trade to consider adopting a Limitation Policy, the request was supported by 31 signatures from licensed drivers.  The reason for the request had been that the demand for Hackney Carriages had reduced and this had resulted in drivers earning less than the minimum wage.  The request also detailed several consequences of this, however, it should be noted that drivers and vehicle proprietors had a responsibility to ensure that they did not work too many houses, kept up their vehicle maintenance and did not 'cherry pick' at the Taxi Rank.

The City Council was duty bound to accept applications for Hackney Carriage licences, a licence could be refused under a Limitation Policy if one was adopted.  If there was an intention to limit the numbers of Hackney Carriage vehicles it was a legal requirement that the Council commissioned an Unmet Demand Survey, the cost of which would be me by the Hackney Carriage proprietors.

Following the receipt of the request a survey of proprietors was undertaken to evaluate the support for the request in the knowledge that the costs would be cascaded to the licence fee.  132 invitations to complete the questionnaire were sent out in hard copy.  28 responses were received, full details of the responses were included in the report.

The Regulatory Services Manager highlighted the Council Policy which prevented the issue of Hackney Carriage licences to non-wheelchair accessible taxis.  A limiting of numbers could prevent the increase of wheelchair accessible vehicles (WAV) within the local taxi fleet unless an additional policy was considered alongside to phase out saloon Hackney Carriages and replace with WAVs.  This would have cost implications for existing proprietors.

The Regulatory Services Manager summed up by outlining the relevant legislation and guidance for the Panel.

The Panel discussed the report in some detail.  Members noted the low number of responses received; they reported on their experiences and those reported through social media regarding the difficulty in accessing taxis in the city.  They felt that the pandemic had negatively impacted the industry and it was not the appropriate time to undertake a survey which would have cost implications on the cost of licences.  Members also highlighted that a number of Hackney Carriage drivers had undertaken private contracts which had reduced the number of vehicles on the ranks.

During the discussion the Regulatory Services Manager commented that authorities who had implemented a restriction policy on Hackney Carriage Vehicle licences had seen an increase in private Hire Vehicle licences.  The Council currently had Hackney Carriage Vehicle licences, this had been a slight reduction since 2019, however, there had been approximately 240 Hackney Carriage Drivers licences issued.

RESOLVED - The Regulatory Panel noted the request and agreed to take no further action and continue to have no limit on the numbers of Hackney Carriage Vehicles.

The Licensing Manager to submit a report setting out the proposed fees and charges for the ares falling within the responsibility of the Licensing Section of the Governance and Regulatory Services Directorate. 
(Copy Report GD.67/21)

The Regulatory Services Manager submitted report GD.67/21 setting out the proposed fees and charges for licences falling within the responsibility of the Licensing Section and the Food and Public Protection Section of the Governance and Regulatory Services Directorate.  The Regulatory Panel had responsibility for determining the licence fees, with the exception of those under the Scrap Metal Dealers Act 2013 which fell to the Executive.

The Regulatory Services Manager explained the extremely wide ranging and principal functions covered by licensing income, and drew Members’ attention to the charging structures in Appendices A to C. 

The Regulatory Services Manager also set out the fee structure for Animal Welfare (licensing of activities involving animals) as set out in Appendix B and the one off registration fee for Cosmetic piercing, Tattooing, Electrolysis and Acupuncture.

RESOLVED – That the charges as set out in Appendices A, B & C of report GD.67/21 be agreed with effect from 1 April 2022 and to recommend to the Executive to agree the charges for the Scrap Metal Act Fees for 2022/23.

Exempt Items


Members of the Regulatory Panel:

Conservative – Mrs Bowman (Chair), Mrs Mitchell, Meller, Morton, Nedved, Shepherd, Collier (sub), Mrs Mallinson (sub), J Mallinson (sub)
Labour – Miss Sherriff, Sunter, Dr Tickner, Miss Whalen (Vie Chair), Alcroft (sub), Ms Ellis-Williams (sub), Patrick (sub)
Independent - Tinnion, Paton (sub)
Green - Dr Davison

Enquiries, requests for reports, background papers etc to:

Additional Meeting Documents

Declarations of Interests

Member NameItem Ref.DetailsNature of DeclarationAction
No declarations of interest have been entered for this meeting.


Officers: Legal Services Manager
Regulatory Services Manager
Regulatory Compliance Officer (Apprentice)